Comments on: Mac Attacked and PC’s Whacked http://popgoestheculture.com/archives/29 Susie Watson, trend analyst and pop culture pundit teams up with cartoonist Barbara Luhring. Together they tear through the real and manufactured trends in pop culture today. Listen in! Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:54:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Old Comments http://popgoestheculture.com/archives/29#comment-41 Old Comments Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:50:55 +0000 http://popgoestheculture.com/?p=29#comment-41 One thing you gals did not touch upon in your Mac vs Window-based PC battle royal, was cost. For years I owned both because it was easier to communicate with clients who owned those systems. The Mac, however, was always about twice the cost, or more, of a Window-based system. When the two systems became compatible (truly) with software, I dropped the Mac because I only needed one computer. I've been completely out of the Mac world for three years, so it would be hard for me to go back. I loved the Mac, but it would cause too much confusion now with our office network, etc. Maybe Macs are cheaper now, but I'm sure they have lost other customers over the years by not being price-competitive. Like any greedy corporation, Apple tried to corner the market for themselves, and didn't open up licensing their operating system until it was too late. Mac may be cool, but it has made too many mistakes to overtake Windows-based systems. Microsoft will be toppled one day, but it will be by a company that may not even exist today. Oh, and back to the cost...I would rather parlay my computer savings into more golf, wine, good food and free time. Keep up the good work! Henry Godbout • 6/20/06; 5:14:40 PM # PCs - unintuitive, bulky code, crashes constantly, badly written software, operating system always limping along to copy what Mac OS were years ago. Barb, you got it so wrong on PCs. Bad spelling is entirely a user problem and crappy spellers are just as likely (if not more so) to use PCs as the customer base for Macs tends to be better educated (even if just self-educated). It's funny you talk about word processing being hard on a Mac because most papers and mags are all written on a Mac. Open up your word processor of choice (I use MS Word for Mac) and type - no problems between OS's except for their users. The thing about PCs is that Microsoft will let any old schmuck build the hardward and then they import their (badly written, poorly tested) oeprating system into it. Essentially, Mac machines are no different than high end PC machines. What you pay for is the fact that Apple created the design for the hardward and not any old fly by night comp company making cheap components. Mac's OS has always been at the forefront of the market in terms of stability, efficiency, design, usability and functionality. The only reason you presently feel that Windows is a good system is becasue they're copying what Mac did five years ago. I don't mind paying for quality in design, function and stability. mamaloo • 6/21/06; 10:49:15 AM # Hi ladies, One thing you missed on your pc vs mac debate is that PCs have the most problems with viruses and spyware. Macs do not have these issues. PC users have to learn about security issues, viruses, spyware and constantly run updates and scans and always be suspicious of e-mail attachments. Mac users don't need to worry about viruses or spywars. I am a PC user, but I do apprceciate the Mac. One more thing. Susie, you really are too mac angry. Your arguments really did not hold water . PC's and Mac's can communicate and the internet is all operating system friendly. Also, you said you hate Microsoft, well, Microsoft makes Windows which is the O.S. you use on PC's. just some food for thought jae jae • 6/22/06; 9:59:01 AM # Susie, I see your point in trying to use the most common device for communication purposes. But it doesn't hold (at least not anymore). Both Macs and PC's can use the (a lot of) same files... Mac's have MS Office if you really need. But TextEdit (included light word processor) can open and edit Word documents. Appleworks can edit Excel files. Mac's can connect to PC's on the network and vice versa. It just sound like you have no experience using a Mac and you are afraid of learning a different system, much like most PC users I know. They like to stick to what they already know. Not that that's bad, but sometimes it's good to be open minded and try something that might be better. That's how technology works. Susie is right about that you can do a lot in both systems and that the commercials were mislead in that sense. The only complaint I would have is gaming. PC wins that arena hands down, because not a lot of games are released on the mac. Susie, your argument about spell checking doesn't hold. Spell Checkers are features of software, like Barb said, and not only that.. it is also up to the user if they use it or not. It is not an OS specific issue. Overall, I think the major difference is the user exprience. The user experience on OSX is a lot more fluid, clear, and pleasant, than Windows. But you need to use one in order to find that out. Emily Yang • 6/22/06; 10:46:37 AM # no pc woman, every text box on macs are automatically spell checked you pc-retard Aaron • 6/24/06; 11:56:50 PM # One thing you gals did not touch upon in your Mac vs Window-based PC
battle royal, was cost. For years I owned both because it was easier
to communicate with clients who owned those systems. The Mac,
however, was always about twice the cost, or more, of a Window-based
system. When the two systems became compatible (truly) with software,
I dropped the Mac because I only needed one computer. I’ve been
completely out of the Mac world for three years, so it would be hard
for me to go back. I loved the Mac, but it would cause too much
confusion now with our office network, etc. Maybe Macs are cheaper
now, but I’m sure they have lost other customers over the years by
not being price-competitive. Like any greedy corporation, Apple tried
to corner the market for themselves, and didn’t open up licensing
their operating system until it was too late. Mac may be cool, but it
has made too many mistakes to overtake Windows-based systems.
Microsoft will be toppled one day, but it will be by a company that
may not even exist today. Oh, and back to the cost…I would rather
parlay my computer savings into more golf, wine, good food and free
time. Keep up the good work!
Henry Godbout • 6/20/06; 5:14:40 PM #
PCs - unintuitive, bulky code, crashes constantly, badly written
software, operating system always limping along to copy what Mac OS
were years ago.

Barb, you got it so wrong on PCs. Bad spelling is entirely a user
problem and crappy spellers are just as likely (if not more so) to
use PCs as the customer base for Macs tends to be better educated
(even if just self-educated).

It’s funny you talk about word processing being hard on a Mac because
most papers and mags are all written on a Mac. Open up your word
processor of choice (I use MS Word for Mac) and type - no problems
between OS’s except for their users.

The thing about PCs is that Microsoft will let any old schmuck build
the hardward and then they import their (badly written, poorly
tested) oeprating system into it. Essentially, Mac machines are no
different than high end PC machines. What you pay for is the fact
that Apple created the design for the hardward and not any old fly by
night comp company making cheap components.

Mac’s OS has always been at the forefront of the market in terms of
stability, efficiency, design, usability and functionality. The only
reason you presently feel that Windows is a good system is becasue
they’re copying what Mac did five years ago.

I don’t mind paying for quality in design, function and stability. mamaloo • 6/21/06; 10:49:15 AM # Hi ladies, One thing you missed on your pc vs mac debate is that PCs
have the most problems with viruses and spyware. Macs do not have
these issues. PC users have to learn about security issues, viruses,
spyware and constantly run updates and scans and always be suspicious
of e-mail attachments. Mac users don’t need to worry about viruses or
spywars.

I am a PC user, but I do apprceciate the Mac.

One more thing. Susie, you really are too mac angry. Your arguments
really did not hold water . PC’s and Mac’s can communicate and the
internet is all operating system friendly. Also, you said you hate
Microsoft, well, Microsoft makes Windows which is the O.S. you use on
PC’s.

just some food for thought jae
jae • 6/22/06; 9:59:01 AM #
Susie, I see your point in trying to use the most common device for
communication purposes. But it doesn’t hold (at least not anymore).
Both Macs and PC’s can use the (a lot of) same files… Mac’s have MS
Office if you really need. But TextEdit (included light word
processor) can open and edit Word documents. Appleworks can edit
Excel files. Mac’s can connect to PC’s on the network and vice versa.
It just sound like you have no experience using a Mac and you are
afraid of learning a different system, much like most PC users I
know. They like to stick to what they already know. Not that that’s
bad, but sometimes it’s good to be open minded and try something that
might be better. That’s how technology works. Susie is right about
that you can do a lot in both systems and that the commercials were
mislead in that sense. The only complaint I would have is gaming. PC
wins that arena hands down, because not a lot of games are released
on the mac. Susie, your argument about spell checking doesn’t hold.
Spell Checkers are features of software, like Barb said, and not only
that.. it is also up to the user if they use it or not. It is not an
OS specific issue. Overall, I think the major difference is the user
exprience. The user experience on OSX is a lot more fluid, clear, and
pleasant, than Windows. But you need to use one in order to find that
out.
Emily Yang • 6/22/06; 10:46:37 AM #
no pc woman, every text box on macs are automatically spell checked
you pc-retard
Aaron • 6/24/06; 11:56:50 PM #

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